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Walking the Way: El “Timing” en Leyenda de los Cinco Anillos
Enviado el Miércoles, 15 diciembre a las 14:40:00
Tópico: Estrategia
EstrategiaNuevo articulo en la sección de estrategia Walking de Way para Diamante. Un estudio sobre el "Timing" realizado por Hoshi Togai.

El “Timing” en Leyenda de los Cinco Anillos

 
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Re: El “Timing” en Leyenda de los Cinco Anillos (Puntuación 1)
por Yahyo el Jueves, 16 diciembre a las 15:15:21
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En la última fase, es importante destacar que los bonos se van perdiendo en el orden que determina el jugador activo, con lo que si hay bonos de chi y penalizaciones de chi, y se pierden antes los bonos se bicho muere, me ha costado alguna partida el dichoso timing.

Yahyo.




Re: El “Timing” en Leyenda de los Cinco Anillos (Puntuación 1)
por Nakata el Jueves, 16 diciembre a las 18:46:34
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Donde esta el orgullo leon y su sentido del honor? Es esta la unica manera que tienen los leones de ganar? este es el precio por ganar?Te doy la enhorabuena pikachu, pero si este es el mazo que funciona, que saquen un kitsu tomb ya y no saquen City of blood.




Re: El “Timing” en Leyenda de los Cinco Anillos (Puntuación 1)
por sysquemalyn el Jueves, 16 diciembre a las 01:41:53
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Se me colo en la redaccion del articulo, y se trata de una errata, el primero que tiene la opcion a responder a una accion es el jugador a la izquierda del jugador activo. Siento si he llevado a alguien a la confusion.

Hoshi Togai




Re: El “Timing” en Leyenda de los Cinco Anillos (Puntuación 1)
por Oni_no_Pikachu el Jueves, 16 diciembre a las 08:48:52
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En la Fase 0 tienes dos errores:

1- Boastful vs. Ganar por Honor
Los efectos de las cartas y las condiciones de victoria no tienen un orden pre-establecido. El orden es el indicado por el Rulebook. En caso de tener el mismo timing el jugador activo decide el orden.

Por tanto en el ejemplo que has puesto puedes decidir ganar los 3 honores primero, y luego chequear la condición de victoria (GANAS) o al revés (NO GANAS). Las dos opciones son IGUALMENTE VALIDAS.

2. - Strange Assembly vs. Tribute

El resultado final está bien, gana Strange Assembly. Pero la explicación del porqué es erronea, ya que te basas en el punto anterior.

Pongo el post de Jeff primero:

>From: "Mark Work"
>Subject: Re: [L5R-CCG] rules question.
>
>Crane vs. Phoenix
>Strange Assembly is in effect.
>
>Phoenix Player hits 40.
>Crane players turn. He hits 40.
>Phoenix player tributes.
>Crane ends his turn on "48", but because of tribute its really 6.
>Phoenix players turn, who wins?
>a) Phoenix cus its the start of his turn and he's got 40?
>b) Crane because he's 8 above the honor win and thats an auto win?

Effects that last "until" a given time end before effects that
happen "at" that time. Tribute wears off first. Crane wins.[JA, 11 March 2004]

Aquí no hay decisión por parte del jugador activo del orden entre efecto del Evento o de la condición de victoria debido a el texto del Strange Assembly: "wins instantly".

Si no pusiera ese "instantly" en el ejemplo de Jeff podría ganar Phoenix o Crane, en función de que decidiera activar primero el jugador activo (Phoenix)

RESUMIENDO

El orden que has puesto en la fase 0 es erróneo

1. Se resuelven todos los efectos permanentes del juego
2. Se comprueban las condiciones de victoria
3. Se pasa a la siguiente fase

Los puntos 1 y 2 si tienen el mismo timing se resuelven a la vez. En caso de conflicto, el jugador activo decide (DE Rulebook)




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